Yes,Natasha one can get into a mess of trouble in one un medicated day…. Hope you're all feeling well. Bipolar? nope. When you self-diagnose or diagnose somebody else — especially sight unseen, you are essentially assuming that you know the subtleties that diagnosis constitutes. I have recently interviewed another member who posted on here who’s story I found inspiring. It’s better to waste money on something and have it not work then not try only to deprive yourself of the only thing that would have worked. Amazed about the higher quality of this narcotics. I was so scared. The psychiatrist diagnosed me as having bipolar disorder without ever having experienced a manic episode. We were staring at the same shining sun. Recently, things have gotten worse. Being an alcoholic is a disease also. I returned to my old life; but I didn’t really remembered anything about those things I did on the mood swing. People come online to complain about things — and part of that is complaining about medications. For the past few years living in poverty in a bad neighborhood with my kids and unable to afford to go to a Dr. It has been a long journey, but I truly believe I can make it without. I live with Bipolar. Is there any benefit. For me, I wasn't actually diagnosed with bipolar until I was 31 yrs. I call things what they are). I’d had it. I hate it when people start talking about the possibility of going off meds on Facebook and other forums, because it seems like most of the time they are actively promoting it. Has anyone on here ever heard of it or tried it. And you can’t ”measure” suffering. The credentials you are right I do not technically have the credentials to counsel others with this condition. I am 18 years old been fighting bipolar or schizophrenia whatever it is. When colors start becoming so out of control for me and my crazy sleep schedule was out of hand, I decided to seek help from a psychotherapist. you name it, I’ve been there. I have no contact to a bipolar person just read about. Second education is essential, and education is not just reading articles on psych central or depressing blogs. hahahhhaahhaa :), “We start with how well or not their life is working out without medication? I have not had any withdrawal symptoms. Withdrawel symptoms like crazy. Or is it in just the good times in between it gives you, that you don’t need meds.. That’s what’s wrong. A year after the ECT, I went off my meds. Even if you do not want conventional treatment for depression, you may want conventional treatment for a brain tumor. Joann. We are all different- and suffer in such varied and layered ways. My attacks last for hours at a time or minutes and I haven’t found a trigger point for the panic attacks. I was embarrassed. I moved away from my home province to a large city and worked two jobs on campus to pay my way . Can you ethically make diagnoses? Wow. Everyone around you pat you on the head and made excuses for your bad behaviors saying OH but he/she is sick and can’t help it and you got used to using medication and your bipolar disorder as an excuse every time you screw up and not take responsibility for your own actions. I know people that dropped meds and converted to beer and pot. When it all was a cheap excuse to consume heinous drugs during my trips. All my heroes were immortal. If one has it, -then they have another illness. Not so long time ago… I was drowning in the deep and dark waters of confusion and self-loathing. Which is nothing more then leading people to path of rational thinking to point out fallacious thinking the person might be having, if you look deeply into the current methods of therapy they can be fairly accurately distilled into leading the patient to rational thinking patterns. I’m not about to have someone tell me how to live it for the next 70 years. That was when I first met madam mania with psychosis, delusions and paranoia. How severe is the illness? A bone doctor isn’t equipt either. Thanks in advance…, If you’re having a positive response to Pristiq, Effexor may work for you as they are almost the same drug and it has gone generic. Hello everyone. We all have the rights,otherwise,of refusal. Learn how your comment data is processed. The alternative is brutal if you don’t take medicine and I think how, and what can I say that makes it a little better a little easier to take – I say, or we used to take our medicine together and say, “cheers.” So with all the pain in suffering and tears and my stomach aching I say – if you don’t want to take your medicine and you can’t find someone to say cheers with – I’m asking that you reconsider and say, “Cheers” before you take yours morning noon and night and for that I shall be so very Thankful to know that I’m no alone when I swallow mine and he swallows his or it is injected now behind bars that sanity is hope while the pills dilute. But if you have stopped planning to kill yourself…that tells me a lot. Hello, I’m Mailia, a wife, a mother of four and a nurse. I do know that there is something very very real, I just don’t know what. With patience and discipline you can learn to live the greys with control and hope. Your email address will not be published. Is it really that bad? Elaborated an incredible and complex plan to achieve immortality. Sometimes I wonder If it is all just cumulative for me. If there were no bipolar meds that were helping you, as you stated, then it’s possible that you don’t have bipolar, isn’t it? Believing you are sick and needing meds, or that you are not in control of your own mind, is a sure way of staying depressed. Cases that are obviously more severe I.e., those that lead to attempts at suicide should recieve a proportionate response. Granted some stability periods are longer for others, but, you can have those periods of time when you are stable. Now a … Medication for control of the symptoms of the disorder. One semester to go to attain her bachelors and she was going to quit until my wife forced her to got & finish. Oncologists are less likely to do scams. You need to be comforted, medicated, seen by a qualified therapist or taken out of your current enviornment and cared for. Non-functional people who don’t take meds are not a “success story”. I live in my live in my own apartment take care of my own kids and have managed never to get arrested or thrown in a mental ward all while taking street drugs and having no one. Wish me luck my fellow comrade! You solve one problem and another one pops up. I can honestly say the only reason I’m still alive is because my Bipolar disorder wasn’t and hasn’t been treated. I was diagnosed with bipolar 2 at age 18, I am currently 20. Maybe your medical opinion stinks like your way of dumping on me. What has their illness untreated cost them? If it helps you; it’s a shame it’s not legal everywhere Sadly, It just makes me freak out. I was 23. I have multiple med sensitivities, so not the full range of options. Even OTC cold medicine can affect me in odd ways (I have to be careful). You should know first, about the radical change in my persona. I suffered the withdrawals for months. The strange thing about my bipolar symptom is i don’t have much mood swings at all when I am on my meds or off really. Every Tuesday I look forward to reading it. It tells me you were trying to kill yourself at one time or many. It is a radical approach to wellness by North American Medical standards but it is my way of attempting to live with enjoyment and peace. The recovery rate for serious mental illness is pretty good, but it’s not through pills. old (I'm 35 now). This is b/c he wants a gun. I’ve been reading the book “The Highly Sensitive Person” by Elaine N. Avon and found lots and lots of “exactly! How many people have been scammed with alternative cancer treatments? My episodes seem to have begun abroad and I go high and then collapse when I come back to the UK and am hospitalized. For several years I forgot about my diagnosis and just complied with medication and three month intervals of blood tests to check my lithium levels. The question to be asking is: What have the practical results of that research been? It hasn’t stopped his symptoms but through therapy and his own research he’s stable to the point where some days he has been hallucinating when he is with me and I wouldn’t have known if he hadn’t of told me. Weight gain, hair loss and immense fatigue were among many of the side effects I had to endure. I’m a vegan, I’m gluten free, I avoid genetically modified foods and I don’t take any drugs, legal or illegal. I didn’t do any research on my condition which was ironic because I considered myself so highly intelligent. Accept that you will have to give up alcohol use and substance use forever and the road to recovery begins. I only went off lithium after talking to a psychiatrist about it. You can take what is given to you as it appears to be, as what people tell you what it is, or you can step inside of it and see it for yourself. I am getting better on my own; herbal remedies yoga therapy. I love it so much it touched my soul and it gave me so much comfort to know that I am not alone, there are people who feel like me, crazy “normal” people would say but this is just how life goes for us. Which pdychist or psychologidt has tsken any of the drugs? This is truly what I’ve wanted to learn because it makes me feel at peace just thinking about it. Required fields are marked *. She was diagnosed Bipolar at the age of 16 but, in reality, she had a developing ED, which messed with her moods because she wasn’t getting the right nutrients in her body, and a developing Frontal Lobe (which make all teenagers a bit “crazy”). Truehope was established to set and define the global standard of what true healing means. I would like to add that there are some of us who treat our bipolar without medication and I don’t think it should be stated as a fact that no one can treat bipolar without medication. Put yourself on his shoes; a healer who doesn’t know how to heal his very own blood. I moved to a state where I had no family so I could focus on myself and my needs for healing instead of having to respond and react in ways my loved ones found appropriate. I’m 27 and I’ve had 2 manic episodes with psychosis in which I was hospitalized. From getting high in millenary mayan ruins, to break into very old theaters in the east side of the country. How would you know that? Reply. My personal diagnosis is bipolar type 2 with psychotic features, PTSD , and a few other anxiety disorders that have been classified together as, generalized anxiety. 100 years so people have been going without meds a long time. It is just a question… I think my brother can have this mental disordee, he refuses to take medication and as I’m writing he is having an episode… believes we (family) are trying to kill him, he hears voices and when apparently sleeping his face moves involuntary. Wish me luck and apologies for the general pointlessness of this comment; it’s close to 5am and I’m taking a break from journal-writing. So everything was ready with the exception of myself. It’s not helping…. These days,more people than not take some sort or medication. I’m not saying that my life is at all easy and that I don’t struggle greatly with this condition because I absolutely do, and still much more so then the average person, but like most anything it’s not what you have but what you do with it. Where are you in life right now. Not every bipolar can sleep or see a therapist. Point being, this time, I recognise the warning signs and if it comes to asking my care coordinator for help, I’ll insist on not being medicated. Purgatory? You can have Bipolar II and have psychotic depression as easily as psychotic hypo/mania. Educate yourself on every facet of this topic the pharmacology of the medications, the lifestyle, psycho social factors, the patterns of thinking. Ali’s case is pending publication in a peer-reviewed, indexed journal. Only a crazy person like me would yell at people threatening to kill me, to please put me out of my misery and mean it. Most medication either gives me wicked side effects or doesn’t work at all. I quit Wellbutrin last September. they say that by time it will get better but i need to get to the age of 40 first since i did commit suicide twice when things get really crazy. If you are here it is because you at least somewhat share the same feelings about medication that I do, if you do not , and medication is not wrecking your life then more power to you, but if it is, then here is my advice. I could focus on my psychotherapy and learn techniques. The Perfect Place For Me To Heal It. Making a disaster of my life for 10 years compared to being a bit volitile for 30 years, I became floridly symptomatic on meds. Also there’s a charming and manipulative demon with equal whit the eloquence of a prince and depravation of s dolomite. Writing each other ‘hate letters’, that no one will ever read. It doesn’t sound like you are, or have ever had, true bipolar at all. Question is, though, how are you supposed to know that it’s a chemical imbalance that’s driving the symptoms? So sometimes in certain situations being sick can come in handy, I have severe bipolar 1 disorder with mixed anxiety intermitant explosive anger disorder with post traumatic stress disorder at least that’s the official diagnosis and I’ve lived for the most part of my life medication free. My son is currently in a horrible (and I mean) horrible locked psych. But I didn’t think permanent short term memory loss for only temporary relief was worth the trade off. Second, who has mild bipolar. I in no way encourage people to get off medications if those medications are helpful or they are in crisis but I object to these blanket statement by supposed experts. I faked all the symptoms that my ill minded ex girlfriend once had. Can;t was my opperative word and disabled was my label. You realize you're not alone. Here are just 5 stories from participants with bipolar. To the point. I often know long beforehand if something is just not right in “whoville” instead of someone who dwells within the Bipolar haze 24/7/365. I have destroyed our finances, a couple of cars, sobriety, my friendships and very nearly my marriage of 19 years. I’m a firm believer in medical marijuana. I would invite you to live in my head for a while and then tell me I “couldn’t” have bipolar and that I couldn’t possibly find trying no meds better than the decade of hell I went through taking them. When I start feeling suicidal my kids take my bullets away. It took me years to admit something was wrong. I went on to nursing school and quit because my marks weren’t high enough. The fact that we now have a “mental health emergency”, but they keep assuring that “help is available” shows that they have been HORRIBLY UNSUCCESSFUL in their efforts to help. “Chemical imbalance” is just a coined term – ask any Clinical Psychologist what those chemical are and how the imbalance causes this illness and they’ll have no answer for you ;) As for brain scans, sure it shows something, the result of something, just like showing someone an x-ray of a broken leg. most of us are gifted an we should use it in our advantage. Anyway if you can’t tolerate meds and your suffering you might want to give the Fischer Wallace device a shot. Not just depressions. My brother is schizophrenic and I had to commit him twice in his late thirties. We both deal with the depression side much more than we suffer from mania. My memory is still riddled with countless holes, and I must unfortunately rely on others for much of my past, never really knowing if they’re just painting it differently so they emerge in a more positive light. Medication should never be the go-to unless the patient is a danger to themselves or others. In my view, slim for anyone who has a severe case of bipolar disorder, which is most of us. You have to read up on our illness. And I will never know the answer to my “what ifs”. I have a long way to go and much to learn but I have decided that I am my own best teacher and the only one living my life. See.. the meds are to improve your quality of living and return you to some functional ability to handle and/or perform your daily living functions (or aka ADLs). If you want to be happy, but your mind spits out negativity, then surely it’s easier to see that it’s the mind doing its own thing, and our true self wants to be happy, but we are identifying with every thought the mind spits out, we are not in control of our mind if we are doing that, the break through happens when you realize you are not your thoughts. What particulars of the argument do you find to be inaccurate? It’s only then that going med-free can even be considered. My associate got his eye fixed in a very short period of time and the doctor said, I had to use a cast on my left arm. + – And what about the long term effects? I never said ”you’re a drunk”. All I wanted was to party all year long, get drunk, get high, get laid, drive drunk in some kind of speed frenzy, drug boosted imaginary race. Schizophrenia appears to be a given, but all the others seem to be murky, at best. In fact, a lot of people don’t even believe my story at first, because they’ve all been properly trained that “once mentally ill, always mentally ill”. This calling will manifest itself in one way or another the beauty of being a human being is that you have control over the terms. Thus, if you think you or somebody else has panic disorder, you may miss the diagnosis of hyperthyroidism or an irregular heart beat. Suffered from a terrible mood swing and instead of feeling sad, I felt really damn good. I would love to go off all meds but I remember how bad it was before i was diagnosed with BP. She was eventually diagnosed with bipolar, and a long line of prescriptions drugs followed, none of which provided long-lasting relief. I was considered the worst off of them all, was told I had no choice but to wind up losing everything and everyone I loved and sitting in a long-term state psychiatric facility until the end of my days. NOW, I’m not suggesting this will happen to anyone who goes off their medicines however he came from foster care, before that he was brutalized, and then brutalized in group homes, actually graduated from high school and then was dismissed to the streets! I lost all connection with the “real” world and created a world for myself, with my very own rules. His addictive behavior had seriously impaired his functioning at work, his relationship with his family and his marriage. You allow your kids to pick up bullets so YOU don’t hurt YOURSELF? And then depression. I just came out of a bad “mixer”, in that I struggle more with mixed episodes than single cycles.. as I did when younger. I was chosen for a cultural exchange program to North Africa. ”’How would you feel if I said someone has it worse than you?” Nothing. That day we all remain silent. I take my supplements (multivitamin, Omega 3’s, low dose of melatonin as necessary) and exercise moderately now. I don’t refuse to take medication, I chose to try and control my symptoms. Still unmedicated, I moved out and my life, though I had managed to ween myself off the prescription med addiction and didn’t self-harm nearly as much (which is HUGE progress made because of talk therapy and the support of my boyfriend – now husband – at the time), I was still not 100%. One thought at a time, like walking through a maze, and through trial and error finding that exit point of true happiness. It is a problem I tried to solve for a very long time, since I was 19 and now more consciously at the age 33. in between 19-33, I’ve had 5 relapse and I’ve become more alerted about my conditions gradually. I’d describe the Mania or Psychosis I went through due to the anti-depressants as absolutely terrifying and although the hallucinations stopped a few days after, I experienced intense paranoia and anxiety with paranoid delusions and didn’t leave the house for a month. Well guess what no one bothers me anymore. Why Do People with Mental Illness Stop Taking Medication? not. Even after, I drank all the expensive whisky in my dad’s personal collection of booze; anything with ethanol was enough to do the trick. Today, Truehope has provided him with a new sense of purpose and helped recognized the innate love he has for others. I suggest a better way to share your thoughts is to speak from your own experience instead of making broad sweeping (and inaccurate) statements. Did you have any side affects from lithium? If I have to take meds when I am 30, so be it, I’m just trying to make sure it’s the beginning dosages and not more than my body should be forced to handle. On the one hand, characters with bipolar can demonstrate that treatment leads to stability. Natasha’s Bipolar is not the same as our’s.. and… thus is the murkiness of Bipolar. Most of all, it is good to live without hiding. Maybe you have Borderline personality disorder, or PTSD? They often report to the psychs (if psych gets the records and communications) of how the patient really is functioning, any physical side effects they’ve noticed and how the patient can interrelate on any given day… this helps the psych figure the meds and the therapists figure the therapy treatment. Good luck to you all, God bless. It is in getting past this that bipolar medication can be used and recovery be achieved. Suicide Self-Assessment Scale – How Suicidal Are You? I have been fortunate to have providers who are willing to work with my informed choices about treatment options. ‘”Paradise resides in our best memories” – I was thinking one of mine, this recurrent mantra on my psyche trying to guide mantra me to give the best of my character today. Stevie, we have already sunk millions into brain research so this isn’t anything new. Psychs aren’t all swift, nor are therapists, nor are social workers/case managers… they can all get a degree but not all are skilled or more importantly comfortable, to handle. One of my best friends has Paranoid Schizophrenia, yet hasn’t taken medication in years and is doing very well without them. Anything is worth a try, the only reason I haven’t gotten one is because of the price tag. I had been experiencing them for years at this point, I could almost FEEL when I was becoming hypomanic and I knew when I was becoming more and more depressed. They also have an option to rent one. Our mind is the most powerful and complex organ probably in the entire universe, and science doesn’t know everything about how the mind works exactly, but there is a definite link between thoughts and well being, and negative thinking can make you physically sick. I’m concern for my children. It was a spiritual experience where someone came to me and said where are you from? I was officially diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder at the age of 18, which was then amended to being Rapid Cycling Bipolar w/ Mixed Episodes sometimes. I’ve been lucky, a few times, to have pdocs that have recognized my intolerance as what it is. Diagnosed Bioplar 1, I was diagnosed at age 18, I had a very strong psychosis, my initials being JC, made my overactive brain create some very unique images that I wouldn’t trade for the world, they say it’s all an illusion, but I don’t believe them. I cycled into depression, came out of it went back to university and finished my Bachelor of Arts degree and almost finished my Bachelor of Education degree but I cycled into depression again and had to quit. Hi, I am a 53 year old woman,single parent of 3 children, bipolar type 1 (co-morbid conditions, ptsd and GAD)and have been medication free for exactly a year on Aug 13th. In 2009 after my husband had been dead only a year and after having lost my house I lost my job after testing positive for weed. That very same night, I got really high and really drunk. I had no awareness of mania and didn’t even research it or consider its implications in my diagnosis. Patient Stories Malia’s Story. If people are diagnosed with the condition then they either share these features or have been seen by incompetent therapists, which there are many. Not fine. It’s fair to say that medication isn’t risk-free either, it blocks the most severe aspects of the polar opposites but people can still have mood swings, experience depression and elation despite taking their meds.In all mental illnesses and disorders there are two types ‘high-functioning’ and ‘low functioning’ in everything from Bipolar to Autism to Schizophrenia, so someone who can manage their illness somewhat without medication is likely to be high-functioning. I’ve always wondered, why do people love their oncologist and hate their psychiatrist? There are many alarming side effects that the meds bring, and I am not fond of it. BUT people should be giving the full information they need to make informed decisions about their own care. A year have passed. Again though, I don’t believe I have ever had a full blown manic episode. It was until next morning, when Mommy and Daddy found me in the couch passed out, with my body entirely painted in red. I’m on rehab on some place i don;t which it is people crayon, try to figure what happened later. Somehow we both broke down to tears and finally. My point is I wish I could know. Here are just 5 stories from participants with bipolar. I have had every type of medication but due to my physical heath issues they played havoc with my health. We’re decades (or more) away from accurate diagnosis and we may in fact never get there. They were useful when I was unable to deal with some certain situations appropriately but I really just needed to learn how to evaluate my options before making decisions and taking action… And I’m not going to be medicat d for LIFE for a “mental illness”. But that’s just me. But having bipolar and no more meds? Beasts? I have been med-free for 2 years now. I then started a round of new atypical antipsychotics, in this case geodon, I took those for one year as well, eventually suffering from the same side effects I went to see my psychiatrist and she put me on the medication sapphiris which had even less side effects, but still were not tolerable she agreed to continue to reduce them to the minimum therapeutic level, after 6 months I quit taking them entirely. Not can they provide social support, a sense or purpose, love or community. For the first 18 years of my life I was free to be me.I had high levels of expectations for my life based on my intelligence , genius level IQ tested in high school. Wicked…. @Stevie Nicks, I get where you are coming from but it seems ironic that you say no two people with Bipolar are the same yet you are criticising others when you yourself can’t relate to what they’re going through. So in moments of lifted depression I began studying alternative methods of lifting depression. I’m sorry if this seems like a rant or I’m picking on people, but it annoys me that we’re bickering amongst ourselves when we’re the best people to try and help each other, a psychiatrist or a doctor are merely observers (though well learned observers) yet they in most cases, unless they have a disorder themselves cannot fully relate to the living hell it can be and can only help you understand and give you the means to treat it. My Experiences With Bipolar Medication. I'm the nurse. Mood stabilizers are the primary treatment for bipolar disorder but even with them, and certainly without them, bipolar depression can be hard to manage. I do feel on many days that when I first awoke and shook off the nightmares that I felt clear and then I took meds and got either worried ( toxic ) or too up. I wanted to answer your questions from a personal standpoint because I am now well over 4 years completely free of all psychiatric medication and in June 2016 I will 5 years completely sober of alcohol and substance abuse. Then I realized; no matter how bright the sun shines, there is always a place it cannot reach. he is being sent to jail and charges will be filed. I have not just bounced back, I am still in a crushing depression. Here are Dr. Dennis’ thoughts. 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